What Happens If Trump Wins?

On Twitter, Dan Drezner asked:

My answer:

So, what survivalist skills do y’all have?

Ross Douthat tells conservatives that should take a page from the pro-life handbook and NOT elect Trump

A vote for Trump is not a vote for insurrection or terrorism or secession. But it is a vote for a man who stands well outside the norms of American presidential politics, who has displayed a naked contempt for republican institutions and constitutional constraints, who deliberately injects noxious conspiracy theories into political conversation, who has tiptoed closer to the incitement of political violence than any major politician in my lifetime, whose admiration for authoritarian rulers is longstanding, who has endorsed war crimes and indulged racists and so on down a list that would exhaust this column’s word count if I continued to compile it

UPDATE: I’m procrastinating and reading all the Trump articles today. Here’s one by Maureen Dowd talking about when Trump and Clinton were friends. It’s the most interesting thing that she’s written in ages.

14 thoughts on “What Happens If Trump Wins?

  1. If Trump even comes close, I’ll probably have to sign-up to join the organized portion of the local Democratic party.


  2. Cash in a hole? There are plenty of countries with liberal/socialist governments. Many of them have more Third World immigrants than the U.S. does, if you think that’s important. And the United States has no capital controls. Move your money now, if you are worried.

    Personally, I do not expect Trump to win, and I do not expect him to be more transformative or more effective than Jesse Ventura or Silvio Berlusconi if he does, so I’m not worried. Then again, some people probably said the same about Lenin.


  3. We’ll be in St. John on Election Day. If Trump wins, we’re swimming to the BVI and figuring out a way to eke out a living. Life is rough – I know – but I’m grateful to have an escape plan. 😉


  4. People will have to pick issues they care about and be activists. I’m especially worried about first amendment rights. Treatment of immigrants will be another important one. I hope, also, there are people researching how to control his involvement in his business interests while he is president. It might send more people back to law school.

    I’m expecting more hate crimes, win or lose. So at worst, I’m thinking about how to protect my Muslim neighbors and students; and though I realize it is a long shot, I have actually thought literally about whether I could hide them in my attic. The neighbors are Canadian, though, so they have somewhere to go if things get really bad.

    Somewhere in one of those articles someone says this is the first time people will have seriously considered that he could win. Really? I’ve been worried about it for the last year, and back and forth terrified of it the last six months. Nazis and fascists and Stalinists were in power during my parents’ lifetime. People welcome authoritarian governments all the time. Of course it could happen here.
    The polls are looking okay now, but it’s still scary.


    1. The FBI’s very selective and timed leaking suggests that some people really do aspire to work for an authoritarian government, even though they very clearly don’t want to follow any rules themselves.


      1. I think that all things being equal, the cost of an authoritarian government is worth it in their minds if it means stopping the first woman president/Hillary Clinton. That transaction cost in itself is frightening and shocking. They are far from equal candidates each with his/her own faults.


      2. He’s going to cancel my vote. What gets me is he isn’t just a bit ignorant on biology. He is clearly operating in a setting with so little contact with women that nobody called him an idiot. I hope he’s gay and orphaned, but I doubt it.


    1. I spelled it wrong last night. In my defense, it’s not in my spell checker and I was drunk.

      The whole election is just bizarre to me. You’ve got one candidate who is in the middle of her party and well within the mainstream of the past 40 years or more of American politics and you’ve got one that is literally unprecedentedly bad on multiple fronts, and people are carrying one with “both sides have issues.” Which is literally true but only in the most trivial sense. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to go back to regarding the Republican Party as just a normal political party. I’m not sure I’m going to try. I’m certainly not going to ever hear any Republican elected official who didn’t speak against Trump talk about “conservative values” without knowing they’re liars. I’ve concluded that the only important divide in American politics is whether not you regard a functioning government as something we need or as a hostage.


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