Trump and Clinton Polling

~ Laura

I’m damn well miserable this morning at I’m only about 20 minutes into the day and a half long preparation for that highly embarrassing, but necessary procedure that all middle aged people need to get when they have a family history of colon cancer. And I haven’t even gotten to the worst part of the prep. I’m just in the clear fluids part of the prep. I WANT PEANUTS. PEANUTS, DAMMIT. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR BROTH.

If the teenagers can be TMI on social media about booze and sex, I think the old folk can be TMI about colonoscopies.

Okay, I’m going to be pleasant to be around today. Might as well blog. I’ve cleared my writing schedule for the today, so I’ll be here.

Let’s talk about the new polling data that shows that Trump and Clinton are about neck and neck. WTF. Is all because Clinton’s pneumonia? Does it confirm every suspicion that people had about Clinton – secrecy, hidden weaknesses, female frailty, arrogance?

32 thoughts on “Trump and Clinton Polling”

  1. “..Is all because Clinton’s pneumonia? Does it confirm every suspicion that people had about Clinton – secrecy, hidden weaknesses, female frailty, arrogance?..” Do I hafta choose???

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  2. Clinton has certainly been running a terrible campaign, and Trump (who is not a stupid man) has had the wit to realize that when your adversary is damaging herself, the best thing to do is stay still and wait. FYI, from my own tangential contacts with Trump in the New York real estate world, I can confirm that he is capable of being quiet and discreet when it serves his interests, as right now.

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      1. He’s gotten inside her OODA loop, kind of permanently. She keeps reacting, late and not effectively, so some thing he has done to knock her off her stride. Now he’s putting the focus back on the
        ‘deplorables’ comment: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3793718/LES-DEPLORABLES-Trump-floors-cheering-Miami-crowd-enters-Broadway-anthem-speaks-giant-Les-Mis-video-screen-art.html. She’s taken herself from ‘overwhelming favorite’ to ‘probable victor’ in the last three months. So, yes, remarkably bad campaign.

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      2. Responding defensively when the press focuses on her emails instead of deftly changing the subject, insulting her opponent’s supporters instead of her opponent, concealing information about her health (which is fine until the moment when you collapse in public, so you shouldn’t do that), etc.

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      3. insulting her opponent’s supporters instead of her opponent

        That’s one way of looking at it, but I think you can make a case that she could also try calling them rapists.

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  3. Eh, polls bounce. Also, I think it would be very bad for Clinton if people really figured she could not lose.

    Clinton’s campaign is literally everywhere here. You can’t go out to catch a couple of Pokemon without being asked if you are registered to vote and you can’t watch TV without being reminded that Trump didn’t pay contractors for his casino and made his clothing line in Asia.

    I’ve not seen Trump’s campaign on the ground and only rarely do I see an ad for him.

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    1. Big article in the WaPo today about how in Va Trumpists and Hillarions don’t ever contact each other – the Northern Va suburbs have NO Trumpists (at least, none who dare reveal themselves) and in the southwest corner of the state in coal country no one cares to ID as for Hillary.
      Reminds me of the old story about Pauline Kael: ‘How could Nixon have won? I didn’t know anyone who was for him.’

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      1. I know and contact dozens of Trump voters. They don’t live near me, but I still see and interact with my family or friends from back home. I think all of my close family has left the Republican Party over the past 8 years, but a large chunk of the cousins and former high school friends most definitely have not. My dad talks about how he can’t mention politics when he meets up with the old men to chat because most are Trump supporters.

        Plus, the coal mining country is not at all far from where I currently live. They blame Obama and Clinton for the loss of their jobs, I think because it would be socially awkward to blame the real cause (fracked natural gas is now cheaper then coal regardless of any environmental law).

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      2. MH: I’m trying to remember all the liberal college professors standing up to defend Maggie Thatcher against the coal miners. I mean, the British coal mines were played out and economically unsustainable. Can you find me some liberal college professors explaining to those coal miners how wrong they were?

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      4. Also, I’m neither a professor nor I am in close contact with any professors who aren’t either doctors or directly employed by doctors. I certainly would pick the coal miners over the frackers, not just on labor grounds but because the frackers very directly and deliberately got the state legislature to block this city’s ability to regular fracking in the city limits.

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      6. I’ve hit my quota of free WaPo articles this month, but the rural half of this sounds correct. Usually campaign signs are split 60/40 for R/D in the part of rural southside VA I visit. This June, I didn’t see a single sign that wasn’t for Trump. Not one.

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    1. I read the politico article on CP’s emails (kind of accidentally, since I don’t really think this kind of private email should be public) and was surprised by the cattiness of interchange. Are people really that catty and two-faced in their emails. I guess I might be odd, and I’m certainly not a politician, but I don’t think my emails would sound any different than I do.

      In the set in the politico article, Rice and Powell seemed like friends, but do they write meanly about each other in another set of emails to other people?

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      1. Good point. If someone is catty about someone else to you, they’re being catty about you to someone else.

        I just ordered a Clinton yard sign. It’s not going to go over well with my neighbors, but hey, I need them to know that HIllary does have support in case they’re tempted to riot with the second amendment people after she wins.

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  5. And by the way, good luck in your session with the roto-rooter. I lost my dad to colon cancer, so I do it every three years. The prep is the worst…

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  6. The only good thing I can say is that the one last year was easier than the one 10 years ago, when you had to drink like two gallons of that stuff that tasted bad. Also, you feel very virtuous afterwards for having submitted to a preventative medical procedure that it is hard to believe they can’t do any other way.

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  7. I have to drink the two gallons of stuff in 30 minutes. There’s a packet of lemon flavoring, so …um.. yay? Please tell that I’m going to lose five pounds.

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    1. I have to drink the two gallons of stuff in 30 minutes.

      That’s actually something college prepares you for. Just ask for a funnel and some tubing.

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    2. Dave Barry, he said: “..Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then you fill it with lukewarm water. (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons.) Then you have to drink the whole jug. This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes — and here I am being kind — like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.”

      Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article1928847.html#storylink=cpy

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      1. My insurance now covers the poop in a box version – started this July. I was scheduled for a colonoscopy in June. As soon as I saw the new coverage, I cancelled that appointment. This reminds me that I have to figure out how to get the new test through my insurance, but for me, this sounds WAY better than the prep for the regular test.

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  8. Mostly where I see Trump supporters is on Facebook, of course. Today I got to watch a nun with Hispanic ancestors yell at a former teacher of mine (colleague of hers) for some Trumpist wall-speak. It was pretty funny.

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  9. Anyway, I’m old enough that I can drink whatever beer I want and young enough that doctors don’t want to put cameras up my butt.

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    1. I suspect there might not be too much enthusiasm in either party. Tomorrow morning, I’ll walk ten blocks on Central Park West and let you know how many Hillary Clinton bumper stickers I see.

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  11. Last election, my neighborhood was covered in Obama signs. This election, there are three left over Bernie Sanders signs, five Trump signs, and no Clinton signs.

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