Good Week for Obama. Long Term Impact?

We did a quickie roadtrip to Cleveland last weekend. We left a day early, on Thursday morning, so we could visit a state college in upstate New York for Jonah’s first college tour. Later, we roamed around the Southern Tier for the day. We found some nice wings and microbrews in Corning. Sunday, we did the eight hour drive from Cleveland to Jersey in one shot.

In short, lots of time in the car during a huge weekend for the news. For most of the trip, we only had access to God radio shows. So, I squinted at my iPhone for the news and retweeted as much as I could. Hardly satisfying for a mostly former blogger.

In one week, there was the confederate flag showdown and the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage.  Obama gave a stunning eulogy for Clementa Pinckney. It was a good week for progressives.

Let’s make some predictions.

Will these victories have any impact on the 2016 election? Will it make conservatives more conservative in the primaries? Will this hurt Jeb? How about Hillary? Obama is going to leave office with some nice popularity numbers for an outgoing president. Is this going to make it hard for her to create distance between her and Obama?

Make predictions. They are fun, and they’re free.

UPDATE: So, Dan also says that Obama had a good week, but he’s a realistic about the obstacles that he faces during the rest of his term.

13 thoughts on “Good Week for Obama. Long Term Impact?

  1. I don’t understand why this was a good week for Obama. It would be like saying that one of Reagan’s best weeks was the week of the Challenger disaster (he gave a good speech, you may recall). I’m also not convinced that reducing the number of Confederate flags on public display at the cost of killing nine black people is really a net win for anyone–certainly not for the dead or their families.

    P.S. Actually, I did have one liberal friend who said that Reagan’s Challenger speech was the best thing about his presidency. But that came from someone violently opposed to almost everything Reagan did, which presumably isn’t our hostess’s perspective.


    1. I agree that leaving Confederate flags up would be a good trade for the stopping killing black people, but I’m not sure who the counterparty is for Obama to make that deal.


      1. We’re just evaluating whether it was a good week. If your spouse died and you got the life insurance, you wouldn’t call it a good week, although the trade is irreversible.


      2. I think the ACA decision alone was enough to make it a good week for Obama.

        I also think it is important not to minimize that good done if elected governments stop displaying a flag that is unavoidably linked to the slavery of the ancestors of a considerable number of their constituents and the effort to deny voting to a considerable number of living constituents. And I’m frankly pleasantly surprised that the momentum is going that way. There have been plenty of murders that were similar in nature to those in Charleston that did not move the debate. I think the President Obama is part of the difference.


  2. I’m leery of predicting anything having to do with the Republican primary. But I think that maybe Kasich will come in stronger than people are expecting right now. He now counts as a “moderate” and doesn’t have the last name “Bush”. If he can raise money, that may be enough.


  3. I think Hilary’s problem is Hilary – not Obama. And I think she, does, indeed have a problem.

    But every single one of the Republican candidates has a bigger problem.

    My only prediction is, unless we are inaugurating Bernie Sanders come January 2017, I will be drinking a lot of tequila in the next few years.


    1. Men don’t like Hillary. It’s weird. A lot of women love her, though. Maybe not the women here on 11D, but the women I know IRL (the Long Island middle class) do.


      1. I think that Hillary with her “Don’t Fuck With Me” face that she used as secretary of state was extremely popular. Even the Fox news people loved her. Campaign Hillary with her toothy grin is embarrassing.


      2. I don’t love her. I’m not sure why. I think she said some things that made me unhappy during the Obama/Hillary (really, it’s hard not to refer to her by her first name, since she shares the name with a President) primary. I don’t like that she’s a wife of a President (it does feel to dynastic, and it’s too often been a means of maintaining power within a certain family, class, to designate the wife as the heir to the power).

        On the other hand, I really do respect the woman she was before she married Clinton, the civil rights work, the feminist stance, . . . . I also like what appears of her public relationship with her daughter. No one can know what goes on inside a close relationship, but publically, she has raised a contented daughter in a difficult public eye.


  4. Speaking of win, Obama raising the FLSA threshold before you can be exempt from overtime strikes me as pretty big. That ought to cut out a lot of abuses where somebody becomes a “salaried professional” at $25,000/year.


  5. We were asked to evaluate the week, right? which doesn’t include the murders but includes the speech, the ACA decision (really huge, and a win for Obama’s long term legacy), and marriage equality (not directly attributable to Obama, but will become a part of his legacy the same way that the collapse of the Soviet Union has become part of Reagan’s legacy).

    How will affect the 2016 election? I have no idea. I think I’ve told this story before, but Kasich spoke at my HS before I was of voting age, when he first ran for Congress; I was fairly politically unformed at the time, but Kasich struck me as slimey then (a key memory is him snapping his fingers to request/demand a glass of water from his driver). He also gave a weasel mouthed answer on abortion rights, designed to confuse and distract the young women (it was an all girls school), whose position on the issue he was unsure of. I really don’t like him and will be annoyed for purely personal reasons (even if I don’t have any preference between him and other Republican contenders).


    1. I’m not very fond of him either. He closed out the whole office where I got my first job. I’m just thinking about the other candidates and comparing.


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