The Bin Laden Debates

Since I was convalescing yesterday, I wasn't able to get my sick ass up to the computer room to properly blog. Well, we have 24 hours of sanity and maybe we can discuss this matters more rationally, than we could have yesterday. 

Here are the best chats from yesterday: 

  • Was there too much cheering and flag waving yesterday? How did the rest of the world perceive of our jubilation? Did the death of Bin Laden really make us safer? The biggest contrarian voice came from Glenn Greenwald. He wrote, "Whenever America uses violence in a way that makes its citizens cheer, beam with nationalistic pride, and rally around their leader, more violence is typically guaranteed. "
  • And what about waterboarding? Some of the information that was used to track Bin Laden MAY have come from the use of torture. Does yesterday's success mean more torture in the future? 
  •     UPDATE: There is mounting evidence that the key bit of information were not gained through torture
  • I spent a lot of time looking at this picture yesterday.  Sub-03intel-articleLarge
    Look at Hillary's face. Read the whole account of events here
  • UPDATES: And what about the pix. Should release the death pictures of Bin Laden? Gourevitch says no. 
  • Did Pakistan know